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Old 01/04/2008, 11:17 PM
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Ah I see, but is there such a skimmer that can pull that much? That would be pretty sweet.
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Old 01/05/2008, 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by luke33
The reason JCT used that large of neck was because his skimmer was pulling around 20 scfh and had like a 2" neck. It couldn't handle that much air so he made an 18" extention. Dzeadow does not need to do that as his skimmer can handle that air he pulls very easy. If he had a pump pushing over 50scfh then he would have a problem.
Thanks Luke That pretty much sums up what I was going to say. IMO, the modded AC70's will kick this skimmer to the next level if you get 30scfh going through the skimmer.

The neck on the octo DNW110 can only handle about 8 scfh stock...the long neck was to compensate for som excessive modding, and a poor skimmer design to begin with. Really, a 5" skimmer body should have a 3" neck on it and 15-20 scfh going through it. Most skimmers have necks that are too small for the body and the air they COULD handle. narrow necks make for difficult adjusting .
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Old 01/05/2008, 01:10 AM
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I think this thing will be awesome if I can get those numbers through it. it works good now, but I can only imagine the froth it'll have with 30-35scfh

So Jeff, are you saying I should have put the 2.75" neck on it instead of the 3.75? or is that just being conservative and we're going all out insane on this project
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Old 01/05/2008, 01:13 AM
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no, i was saying that a 3: neck would be too small, and essentially that bigger is better (within reason of crourse ) when it comes to necks.

I say go all out insane...i mean, really...you just made a 5 gallon HOB skimmer
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Old 01/05/2008, 01:19 AM
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Yeah... yeah I did. I guess there's no turning back now. I can only imagine if I ever upgrade tanks, I'll have a 55 gallon drum hanging out of my house for a 150g tank.. sound about right for ratios?

You know you guys love seeing projects like this, it makes this hobby all worth while! I'm going to find that guy that heads up the square skimmer brigade, we're re-vamping the club
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Old 01/05/2008, 01:23 AM
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Oh and for keeping the facts straight, its not hanging on anything, it's just sitting there
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Old 01/05/2008, 03:15 AM
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I still think it could be hung on just gotta figure out how its going to be done. If not theres always that option of adding brackets to the wall and using that for support a small shelf. This skimmer is great for people who don't alot of space. Its better than the coralife because its smaller in size while the other is a tube thing which might take up more room.
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Old 01/05/2008, 12:01 PM
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That would be one werid looking skimmer if you did what happy mentioned. And since you mentioned that its not worth it to get the 100f I think I need to order a balco
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Old 01/05/2008, 12:24 PM
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lol.. I just didn't know if it was worth it to go from a 100 to a 100F, I'd imagine that there's not that much difference in performance. Let's see what happens when I get the new AC70 pumps in there. If it rocks out with it's you know what out, we'll see about getting some test subjects.

I keep asking this but nobody answers, do you guys have room on your stands behind your tank for this to sit on or what? Just in case we get 30 scfh out of the ac70 and someone wants to pay for materials and try one, they'd have to have somewhere to put it, I'm not taking the risk of having it hang on someone's tank!
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Old 01/05/2008, 12:30 PM
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Nope my stand doesn't extend that far back. But I am sure you could come up with some ideas of how to hand that thing. I like happys idea of just intalling a mini shelf behind the tank. It sounds like its more than enough to support it.
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Old 01/06/2008, 09:11 AM
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dzeadow, what kind of mods to the ac70 are you planning on doing? just a mesh mod or changing the volute like hahnmeister did?
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Old 01/06/2008, 01:38 PM
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How impossible is it for you to install a mini shelf behind your tank? I know that if I did't have that room back there to do it, there wouldn't be any way that I could move the whole tank to be able to screw anything to the wall. The mini-shelf is going to have to be something you guys have to figure out


gman: I'll be doing hahn's mods to the ac70's which includes a new volute cover w/ bigger outlet/inlet and mesh.
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Old 01/06/2008, 08:09 PM
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cool make sure to take pictures and post them ive been wanting to do the mods for a while but dont have time and space right now
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Old 01/07/2008, 12:21 AM
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Hmm I still think it is possible to hang on. Even the cprs fuge/skimmer is pretty huge. And not only that it has rocks and sand in there. So its probaly going to meat the balcos weight.
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Old 01/07/2008, 07:05 AM
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Hmm... looks like you're right. CPR's website says the aquafuge ps has a water capacity of 4.5 gallons. I guess I've never seen one in person to know what kind of pieces thay have on there to help hold it up... I wouldn't feel safe having anything less than like 4 triangle pieces and possibly the pvc pipes to help. Might be overkill, but I'd feel horrible if it ever broke off and fell causing who knows what kind of damage.
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Old 01/07/2008, 11:53 AM
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Well, if I had been smart enough to check my mailbox over the weekend, I would have seen that I got one of my ac70's! Time to start modding.
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Old 01/07/2008, 12:31 PM
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keep us updated with pics, and test results. Yeah those CPR fuge hobs are huge, did you check out there dimensions?
Large AquaFuge2
Includes Powerhead
Water Capacity: 4.70 Gallons
Dimensions: 25.5" L x 4.5" W x 12" T
Product Code: AF2LG
This thing probaly would weigh more than yours its going to have rocks and sand in it
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Old 01/07/2008, 12:36 PM
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Yeah, it's bigger width wise too alowing more supports if necessary, I'm kind of limited to 3-4 supports. I'm not sure how much weight a perfectly glued seam can hold.. I guess I could pm Acrylics and find out.
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Old 01/07/2008, 01:06 PM
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That'd probaly be the best way to go about.
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Old 01/07/2008, 03:48 PM
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I didn't even know it was 4.5g's but if you added rocks I am sure it would surpass your balco. I think it usese those triangles for support.
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Old 01/07/2008, 03:48 PM
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I think I need to go to HD instead of lowes. I'd like to find a 2" T w/ a 1" male thread on the T to use instead of a coupling/cap.. it'd make it easier for doing this. But I'll trek on this route until I get out and go to the store again. I totally forgot to order more, so I hope I have enough enkamat to do this!
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Old 01/07/2008, 03:50 PM
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Oh snap I just noticed that you got your AC's thats awsome news. And for the enkamat get free samples from colbound. And yes keep us updated with the pics XD going to be sweet to see how things go.
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Old 01/07/2008, 06:39 PM
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i forgot how frustrating modding is! especially when you have to make parts for it. I got it to pull 10scfh, but it's bouncing.. gotta figure out what its choking on.. obviously too much air, but maybe I need to restrict the water flow more.
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Testing testing its going to be fun
 

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