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Old 02/17/2007, 11:16 AM
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Anthelia Why

Being fairly new to coral I have a question for you about Anthelia Coral. It has been said that this coral is easy to take care of, and it has also been said that this requires expert care. I'd appreciate your opinions on this. How hard is this stuff to care for?

http://www.marinedepotlive.com/anthe...---polyps.html

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...pcatid=694&N=0
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Old 02/17/2007, 11:27 AM
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in my opinion they are very easy and are tolerable of less than pristine water quality, give them a try if your tank is nice and matured already, i say you'll have some good luck here with this specie's...
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Old 02/17/2007, 11:34 AM
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I typically trust what Live Aquaria has to say over Marinedepotlive simply because Live Aquaria puts some effort into maintaining their website. Seriously, Marinedepotlive looks like they just slapped it all together in an afternoon. I've already found a number of mistakes throughout their livestock descriptions. Liveaquaria, on the other hand, updates daily and has pretty accurate descriptions.
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Old 02/17/2007, 11:59 AM
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i have some in my tank, i keep it away from other LR because they spread & them it will be evey where, ill try to go get a pic & post it,
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Old 02/17/2007, 12:16 PM
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Old 02/17/2007, 02:23 PM
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Iodine

ChAoTiCrEeFeR4U, or anybody else, do you add iodine to the water for the anthelia? If not what type (brand name) of salt are you using for your tank(s)?
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Old 02/17/2007, 04:01 PM
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Anthelia do best in a lot of strong water flow. You don't need to add any iodine for them and they'll do fine with the normal levels of iodine that any reputable salt mix will provide with normal frequency of water changes.
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Old 02/17/2007, 05:38 PM
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Anthelia do best in a lot of strong water flow.......

How strong is "strong" waterflow? Do I want them blown sideways where they do not stand back up? Or is my goal to make them flow like long grass in a field on a breezy day?
Question is for anybody who knows, or has an opinion.
OR MORE POINTEDLY IN THIS VIDEO IS THERE ENOUGH, OR TOO MUCH FLOW. CLICK PIC TO PLAY.

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Old 02/18/2007, 12:53 PM
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Mine blow like crazy in strong flow and like it. They can be a PITA like zenia when they are happy. I have found this coral to be hard to kill. I put some that separated into a holding tank with no lighting (rather than throw it out) and it survived for a month until I got a new ballast. I then added new rock and cycled the tank and the stuff is still alive.

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Old 02/18/2007, 01:08 PM
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Thanks Lisa. I hope I have as good of luck as you. Thanks a lot.
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Old 02/18/2007, 02:17 PM
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yeah, they are a lot like Xenia in that if they are happy they spread like wildfire, but if they don't like the water, they melt away.
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Old 02/18/2007, 04:57 PM
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Recovery time

It's been said that these ship roughly. I take that to mean that during shipment they get very ragged. It is said though that they recovery within 2-4 days, or up to 2 weeks. Does anybody have experience with this aspect? Do you have different recovery times?
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Old 02/18/2007, 10:04 PM
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I hope this gives an idea of the kind of flow that the green star polyps prefer and the anthelia prefers....I can tell you that the ones you see in this video are spreading very fast in the kind of flow you see......

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Old 02/19/2007, 10:27 AM
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Thanks. It's good to see, but where is the flow coming from. I have my jet blowing directly on the anthelia from about 5 -7 inches away. The Polyps get flow from this too, plus the power filter empties onto the side where they both are. Nice stuff BTW.
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Old 02/19/2007, 12:02 PM
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I've been relying on a succession of different powerheads to supplement the flow from my sump return. I find that from the time I first set up my reef some three years ago, I've just kept on adding and or changing the powerheads to increase the flow. I guess I did that in slow increments, thinking each time, that "a little more" would benefit the reef. But, it's been clear that each time I did increase the flow, more was, indeed, better. I've read quite a bit about flow and the "need" for it with this kind of coral, or the preference for "less" by that kind of coral...but, I've found that almost invariably, the more I added the better the response from just about every kind of coral I have. That includes soft coral, LPS and SPS.

To answer the question though, the flow that I have now in the tank is coming from the returns from the sump that are on each side of the back of the tank, two MJ1200 mods and a MJ12 with a Hydor Flow Deflector on it. That gives me a total of just about 34 times the 120 gallons of the tank. I have one Mod on each side of the tank and the MJ with the Hydor on one side next to the Mod there. Surprisingly, even though the MJ with the Hydor only generates maybe 250gph, it has the effect of creating a randomness in the water movement that's very natural and I think benefits the tank overall.
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Old 02/19/2007, 12:11 PM
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I have found they will tolerate low light conditions, and less pure water. I have a large amount in my fuge
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Old 02/21/2007, 01:21 PM
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Anthelia-good salt, and recovery

AVI, is Marinesalt by Seachem a reputable brand, and fit for the Anthelia? What about regular Instan Ocean? Will that provide the Anthelia with what it needs?
Frick-N-Frags.......When the Anthelia starts to melt is there any recovery possible at that point?
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Old 02/21/2007, 04:04 PM
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hrdneglcry,

I know I am not who you asked but yes they may come back after they start to melt. Occassionally I will lose a small section but it always comes right back. I grew a huge amount from 2 polyps in a fairly short time. Crazy! I would worry if the whole colony starts to melt though. That isn't good news. Watch out, it also lets pieces go to colonize other spots in your tank. I don't like that part!
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Old 02/21/2007, 06:07 PM
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How fast can this stuff spread?
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Old 02/21/2007, 06:39 PM
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Just about any commercial brand of ocean/aquarium saltmix will be fine. I switch brands and I actually don't see any differences in them.

If they start to melt, put them up closer to the lights in a place where there is more water flow than they are in now. They may well come back and recover fully. Once a colony of anthelia becomes established, they are fast speaders. I have to keep mine "groomed" by scraping the encrustation off the rocks that they're on so they don't invade other coral. I really believe that when I do that it causes an even more rapid growth of new polyps so I have to tend to it fairly frequenty. I bring the fragged polyps which I glue to a rock and start a new colony that way to a fish store that I frequent where they gladly give me a credit for them because they sell as soon as I bring them there.
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Old 02/22/2007, 12:29 PM
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Make sure that you have them segragated in a sandy bed by themselves... they grow like weeds and WILL take over rocks/tank easily... more than a xenia can.
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Old 02/22/2007, 01:20 PM
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Anthelia

When I bought the anthelia it was growing on a big rock. I fragged it off. Does it necessarily need sand beneath it? I can give it that.
I think mine is the Blue Waving Hand Coral type of Anthelia
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Old 02/22/2007, 07:37 PM
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Sunfish did your holding tank have the same salinty level as your tank that the Anrthelia came out of?
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Old 02/22/2007, 11:12 PM
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Anthelia will grow on just about anything...rock...sand...I recently removed some from the glass.
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Old 02/23/2007, 02:24 PM
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Having them isolated especially on sand, makes it easier to remove/prune them.. once they get on your main rock display it will be hell to get them off.
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