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Old 07/14/2007, 06:12 AM
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Can Anyone Tell Me What This Is??

My wife and I just got this fish here from a Japanese fish store, and we haven't a clue what it is. We have looked all over the place for his name, and can't find it...anyone have any idea what it is??

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Old 07/14/2007, 06:53 AM
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Looks like a filefish, not sure which kind. By the way, if I'm right it won't be a good addition to a reef tank.
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Old 07/14/2007, 07:13 AM
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Harlequin filefish... Bad record in captivity as it eats only sps polyps..
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Old 07/14/2007, 07:40 AM
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Thanks for the info
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Old 07/14/2007, 08:09 AM
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Harlequin filefish... Bad record in captivity as it eats only sps polyps..
agreed. Also called an orange spotted filefish. Please research before you buy. Without a constant supply of SPS polyps to eats, this fish will die shortly.
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Old 07/14/2007, 02:31 PM
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Orange Spotted Filefish. Like everyone else has said, it is an obligate coralivore in the wild. Some have had limited success mashing mysis shrimp onto a dead coral skeleton and getting it to eat the shrimp by picking at the coral but this has only worked for a few months and the fish eventually die of malnutrition. It will decimate SPS polyps if placed in a reef tank.
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Old 07/14/2007, 04:38 PM
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Has anyone tried to add sps frags to a tank with these fish. Unlike years ago frags are farely common these days. I wonder if you added a frag a week if it would survive? Also don't tell the guys in the sps forum that we are using their offspring for food.
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Old 07/14/2007, 05:26 PM
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Doesn't a frag a week get kinda of expensive $$$? It's not like other difficult fish (i.e. a mandrin) that you can just have a fuge that grows the food, and wait till tank materity.
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Old 07/14/2007, 05:51 PM
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I'm pretty sure that Joe Yauillo at Atlantis MArine World has a pair in his 20,000 gallon full of SPS. Other than that type of setup, where the coral growth could outpace the consumption, leave these fish in the ocean.
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Old 07/16/2007, 03:02 PM
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Doesn't a frag a week get kinda of expensive $$$? .
I guess it depends on if you really want to keep one of these fish or not.
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Old 07/16/2007, 03:45 PM
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I honestly think that they need more polyps per week than what a typical frag would provide. The ones that I have seen constantly pick at the coral all day long.
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Old 07/16/2007, 06:24 PM
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You might be right triggerfish. Of course if you do not give them atleast the one frag per week we all know they will die for sure. I am simply suggesting a plan that might work. Of course it might not. Food for thought.
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Old 07/16/2007, 08:11 PM
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Not to mention, it doubt it'll take the frag long to wise up to the fact that if it shows polyps during the day, they'll get eaten.
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Old 07/16/2007, 10:24 PM
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Here is some general information about the animal including, but not limited to, its dietary needs.
Oxymonacanthus longirostris
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Old 07/17/2007, 02:53 AM
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Thanks Hormigaquatica. That was good stuff
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Old 07/25/2007, 04:44 PM
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Greg Hiller who is here on RC has one- http://www.greghiller.com/
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Old 08/04/2007, 10:34 PM
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FWIW, my fish is still going strong...still never eaten anything other than coral. Tried adding a mate for it a few months back, but the domiant fish chased it into a hole and it never came out. Must have been the same sex. I understand that Joe Y. has managed to get a mate for his, though I think he tried quite a few times. I think that with the types of success with SPS tanks that people are now having, there will be more and more people keeping this fish. FWIW, my pair of golden angels do a lot more damage to my Acros.
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Old 08/05/2007, 12:55 AM
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It's an outstanding fish but it's small so shouldn't eat too much as Greg says. Energy has one in his huge 1700g stingray tank if memory serves me right.
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Old 08/05/2007, 12:56 AM
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torbett, which shop did you get it from in Tokyo?
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Old 08/05/2007, 01:18 AM
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Yah that is a filefish!
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Old 08/05/2007, 11:00 AM
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sweet filefish!
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