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Old 01/10/2008, 09:16 AM
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Grammar police, need your help. when to use i.e. when to use e.g. ?

I am writing a memo and can not remember the proper usage of "e.g." and "i.e.".

Please advise.

Thanks.

PS. what does e.g. and i.e. short for ?
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Old 01/10/2008, 09:17 AM
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One more. What is PS ?
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Old 01/10/2008, 09:20 AM
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Old 01/10/2008, 09:25 AM
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I know it's not what it stands for, but the rule I've always used is "In Explanation" and "Example Given"
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Old 01/10/2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: Grammar police, need your help. when to use i.e. when to use e.g. ?

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I am writing a memo and can not remember the proper usage of "e.g." and "i.e.".

Please advise.

Thanks.

PS. what does e.g. and i.e. short for ?
i.e. = id est, which translates to "that is", basically use it in similar context to where you would say "in other words"

e.g. = exempli gratia, and is "for example"

p.s. is post script; essentially, it's for adding in something that wasn't in, or didn't belong in, the body of what you're writing.

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Old 01/10/2008, 09:57 AM
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Darn you, Wolverine...you stole my opportunity to show off my college Latin! Anyone want to know what AM and PM stand for?
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Old 01/10/2008, 09:59 AM
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Darn you, Wolverine...you stole my opportunity to show off my college Latin! Anyone want to know what AM and PM stand for?
Sure - go for it!
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Old 01/10/2008, 10:32 AM
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Old 01/10/2008, 12:48 PM
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Funny thing Brian, I keep being told that too. But I really can't say that I'm feeling a real bond with this Google person.

Google never calls or writes.
Google has never joined me when I'm out with my other friends having a drink.
Goggle never came over to help me move.
Google doesn't send me Christmas cards.

And Google certainly has never fetched me a sammich and a beer from the fridge.

So who is this Google person and why won't they be my friend?

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Old 01/10/2008, 01:30 PM
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According to the dictionary, “i.e.” means “that is to say” while “e.g.” means “for example”. So the difference would be as such:

“There are many ways to lose a race (i.e. there are a lot of obstacles to winning).”
“There are many ways to lose a race (e.g. disqualification, injury, sickness).”

The abbreviations i.e. and e.g. are not interchangeable – i.e. (id est) means “that is” or “in other words” and e.g. (exempli gratia) means “for example.” Both i.e. and e.g. must have commas after them as well as before them, unless they’re preceded by a dash or a parenthesis.

Vladimir likes pasta (e.g., cresti di gallo, orecchiette, vermicelli).
Estragon likes pasta (i.e., thin pieces of hardened, unleavened dough that are molded into various shapes).
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Old 01/10/2008, 04:01 PM
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AM is Latin for Ante Meridies. Literally, before noon. PM is Post Meridies. After noon. Thanks, David!

Now who wants to know what AD stands for? Or etc.? Or ad hoc? Anyone? Anyone?
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Old 01/10/2008, 06:04 PM
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what's ad hoc stand for?
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Old 01/10/2008, 06:12 PM
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AM is Latin for Ante Meridies. Literally, before noon. PM is Post Meridies. After noon. Thanks, David!

Now who wants to know what AD stands for?
After Debi.
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Old 01/10/2008, 10:41 PM
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AD = annô Dominî = in the year of our lord
BC = before Christ
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Old 01/10/2008, 10:50 PM
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After Debi.
is nina the only thing that would be BD (before debi)?
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Old 01/10/2008, 11:24 PM
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AD = annô Dominî = in the year of our lord
BC = before Christ

I was always taught that AD was "after death", meaning the death of Christ.


Of course, the end result is the same.
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Old 01/11/2008, 12:53 AM
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I guess you meant to call the Latin police, not the grammar police

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Old 01/11/2008, 08:30 AM
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I was always taught that AD was "after death", meaning the death of Christ.


Of course, the end result is the same.
That's a common misconception; in fact, in the US, it's what most people think AD stands for. The thing is, they're not equivalent. The big problem is this: What would you call the years while Christ was living, and how would you number those?

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Old 01/11/2008, 08:38 AM
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Old 01/11/2008, 10:27 AM
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Ad hoc means "to this". In other words, created especially for this purpose.

Thanks, Kinetic!
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Old 01/11/2008, 11:02 AM
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is nina the only thing that would be BD (before debi)?
yer gonna git it and when you do, you aren't gonna like it.

what does nunc pro tunc mean?
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Old 01/11/2008, 11:07 AM
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what does nun pro tunc mean?


She gets paid for doing this?

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Old 01/11/2008, 11:10 AM
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nunc pro I believe would be "never for", but let me check. You stumped me with that one.
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Old 01/11/2008, 11:13 AM
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Ok, you got me on that one. It means "now for then". I suspect in your field it would mean allowing someone extra time before they have to do something.
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Old 01/11/2008, 11:14 AM
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How about ad valorem? Semper fi(delis)? Stat (as in a command given in a hospital)? Cum laude, magna cum laude, summa cum laude?
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