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View Poll Results: What hard to find angel do you have
Bandit Angel 3 2.54%
Golden Pygmy Angel 3 2.54%
Colins Angel 6 5.08%
Hotumatuas Angel 0 0%
Interuptus Angel 9 7.63%
Joculator Angel 2 1.69%
Resplendent Angel 8 6.78%
Venustus Angel 3 2.54%
Blueline Angel 3 2.54%
Chrysurus Angel 5 4.24%
Conspicillatus Angel 9 7.63%
Multicolor Angel 7 5.93%
Peppermint Angel 49 41.53%
Kingi Angel 11 9.32%
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Old 04/09/2006, 10:31 AM
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What rare angel is the least owned?

I was just curious to see what angel is the true rare find.
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Old 04/09/2006, 10:56 AM
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If I left one out just put it in your post. And if you have more then one please vote twice.
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Old 04/09/2006, 12:22 PM
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Clarion...those aren't that rare compared to it
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Old 04/09/2006, 01:47 PM
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Ya know, it's funny looking at that poll.

Chrysurus? Multicolor? You've gotta be kidding me.

It's gotta be Kingii, Pepps or Clarions
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Old 04/09/2006, 02:22 PM
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My collins is the rare angel I have in my reef. Whats even more rare is that it eats

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Old 04/09/2006, 02:25 PM
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I would say the Clarions and Limbaughs (sp?) Angels would be the rarest kept in personal tanks.
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Old 04/09/2006, 02:26 PM
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What Moonpod said. Those three are either rare, deadly to collect and rare, or protected. That makes them pretty much non existant in our tanks.
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Old 04/09/2006, 02:38 PM
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I would vote for Kingi... Beautiful fish...
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Old 04/09/2006, 02:40 PM
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Sorry guys.. I did forget about the Calrions.
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Old 04/09/2006, 06:00 PM
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Is this poll supposed to be asking which ones people have, or which ones we think are the most rare?
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Old 04/09/2006, 06:14 PM
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Which ones people have
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Old 04/09/2006, 06:29 PM
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That being the case Peppermints. I know there are a few out there. They are very, very pricey, very, very delicate, BUT there are some out there.

Bandits as far as I know die in captivity. If they were hardier they'd be everywhere, b/c frankly, they aren't exactly "rare" in Hawaiian waters so...

Chrysurus, Collins, Multicolor, Goldens, Interruptus, Joculators, Resplendens, Venustus, blueline, conspics, all come in regularly.

Hotamatua I haven't seen, nor heard of in captivity so if you've seen one of those.....

Kingii, ditto.

There are some old clarions still around, and probably some from that last batch that was brought in illegally.
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Old 04/09/2006, 06:33 PM
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what is the species for the kingii angel?
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Old 04/09/2006, 09:35 PM
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Apolomichthys kingii
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Old 04/09/2006, 10:37 PM
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Proably the rarest angel that is legal to keep is the Clipperton Angel - Holocanthus limbaughi . They only come from the tiny Clipperton Atoll - which is in the middle of nowhere. The Marine Center had one once with the price listed as "stupendously expensive". Some other rare angels are protected from collection such as the Chaetadontaplus Balinae.
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Old 04/09/2006, 10:41 PM
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I think the Japanese Pygmy Angel(Centropyge interruptus) is the rarest one.
and it very pricy too ( $1400 at marinecentral.com)
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Old 04/09/2006, 11:33 PM
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interruptus angels are relatively commonly owned now. Shoot Maximus has two of 'em.

jmicky you ever heard of anyone who actually has a clipperton angel?

Tiger/Kingi angel in a shop in Japan
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Old 04/10/2006, 02:04 AM
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Peppermint has to be in the top 3. The price tag is usually around $10,000 for one (at least here in Japan).

Are any of these considered rare:

http://natyu.ne.jp/fish/sakana01.html

Those first two I've never seen before and the price tag is about $1200.
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Old 04/10/2006, 02:10 AM
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Holocanthus africanus. The 2nd pix is a younger one than the first one. The first pix is a subadult, the second is a juvi. The full grown adults are pretty blah looking.
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Old 04/10/2006, 02:12 AM
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Like a lot of Angels, pretty when juvies but blander when adult. Not ready to pay that kind of cash for a fish anyway.
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Old 04/10/2006, 02:50 AM
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Old 04/10/2006, 01:07 PM
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Kingii and africanus recently were available last fall... Tom at Marine Aquatics got them along with some gem tangs and I spoke to a loacl distributor that saw them pop up... I think the retail on the kingii's were around $6000, while the africanus were a little above a grand...

Hotamatua has also shown up here and there from Easter Island, with even Live Aquaria offering a few on their site at a pricey $1500... seems like years ago they were more available at less than $1000...

One I've never personally seen or seen available is C. narcosis...

Also not mentioned are Genicanthus personatus, Centopyge nahackyi and Centropyge debelius (although this does become available)...

Clipperton's I've never seen available, although they have one at the Waikiki Aquarium I took a few shots of and spoke with Bruce Carlson about...

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Old 04/10/2006, 01:22 PM
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Did the kingii really show up? I asked about pricing and never got a response. They are supposed to be hardy so despite the price being steep if it's a tough fish...
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Old 04/10/2006, 01:34 PM
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According to Tom it did, although I can't verify it as I did not see it or order it obviously... I wanna say the price was $5800... looking at it from a supply/demand perspective I would have thought the price to be more... I was surprised to see the africanus relatively cheap and this was substantiated by the distributor I spoke with...
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