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Old 01/11/2008, 09:57 PM   #1
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I'm new to the forum, which is why you've never seen a post from me in here.

Anyway, I live in Tulsa and am wanting to do a 20-30g FOWLR. I am just trying to get some information about prices and the best LFS in Tulsa to go to. I'd be willing to make a drive to OKC if the price was worth it, but it'd have to be really worth it.

Anyone know what uncured live rock goes for around here?
What about cured?

I'd be buying between 20 and 35lbs, depending on the size of tank I end up going with. But I think I'd like to go uncured due to the cheaper price.

Also, anyone have any lights for sale? I'm looking for something PC probably around 120w or so, just in case I want to add some corals.

Anyway, thanks for any help.


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Old 01/11/2008, 10:16 PM   #2
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6125 S Sheridan Rd
Tulsa, OK 74133
(918) 497-1212

Aquarium Oddballs
6115 E. 31st St
Tulsa, OK 74135
(918) 831-0099

Are the only two I know about in Tulsa. Both are excellent stores and will be willing to answer your questions. I don't know what they charge for rock but I have seen it go from $3 to $6 a pound.

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Old 01/11/2008, 10:30 PM   #3
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I would second Krbekk's recommendations, I especially like Oddballs. One word of warning though, when you see the selection of frags you will be hooked on corals sooner than later. Take your time and good luck.


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Old 01/11/2008, 11:36 PM   #4
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I would second Krbekk's recommendations, I especially like Oddballs. One word of warning though, when you see the selection of frags you will be hooked on corals sooner than later. Take your time and good luck.
I'm afraid of that. I have to live on a pretty strict budget, and have to plan everything in advance, so hopefully impulse buys will be kept to a minimum!

College makes me be perpetually broke. I've been saving to start a SW tank for about 2 months now, and am ready to get it going. I have a little fund I put into every week, which will be converted into food/supplies once its going.

I'm sure I will join COMAS or OMAS at some point, just a matter of me wanting to get my tank going first before I do.


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Old 01/12/2008, 12:12 AM   #5
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The great thing about joining a club and finding the forums, is that you can find some of those necessary items for sale - used and can participate in a frag sharing program. For more information on this, check out our website: www.mycomas.com.

And the Tulsa club, OMAS, has a website: www.omas.org


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Old 01/12/2008, 12:27 AM   #6
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Welcome Ryan, OMAS in Tulsa is getting ready to have a meeting on January 19th. Just check the website and forums for directions.
Hopefully we will see you there.

You can also ask any other questions here or email them to me at saltclub@hotmail.com


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Old 01/12/2008, 07:32 AM   #7
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I want to throw in my 2 cents here about buying live rock. I know it seems expensive to buy from the shops but here is my experience in live rock.

With a few exceptions, all the used rock that I have bought is now covered in hair and other forms of nuisance algae. I have slowly torn my tank apart and bleached these pieces. That doesn't look real good and I lost all the "cool" stuff on the rocks. I don't find these pieces to have been much of a bargain in the long run.

Taxes, death and fresh live rock...can't seem to get around them.


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Old 01/12/2008, 08:11 AM   #8
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I've used rock from all different sources and my experience has been alot different then Serra's. I've had more than a fair share of algae and other nuisances "pop" up on my rocks, but never stays around for any real length of time. Couple weeks at most when first starting a new system. I buy only "good deals" I find on rock, weather it be uncured, cured, dry, whatever. On a tight budget myself but havn't figured out how to keep impulse buys to a minimum, if you do figure that one out, let us all know, LOL.


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Old 01/12/2008, 11:53 AM   #9
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I've used rock from all different sources and my experience has been alot different then Serra's. I've had more than a fair share of algae and other nuisances "pop" up on my rocks, but never stays around for any real length of time. Couple weeks at most when first starting a new system. I buy only "good deals" I find on rock, weather it be uncured, cured, dry, whatever. On a tight budget myself but havn't figured out how to keep impulse buys to a minimum, if you do figure that one out, let us all know, LOL.
Yeah, impulse buys are bad. I plan on buying my rock "new" even though it all comes from the ocean anyway, unless it's that stuff they are making now that is so dense you can't get anything to grow on it. I'm not totally sure what you mean by used rock Serra. I mean, all live rock is going to have stuff living in it, and sometimes some nuisance algae comes along with it, You really can't avoid it unless you take it out of a fully cycled immaculate tank, and even then its probably gonna come with it.

If you are still having hair algae problems, look into getting a mexican dwarf hermit, they should pretty well clean that up.


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Old 01/12/2008, 12:35 PM   #10
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Serra means (I think) rock from people selling their tanks off.

If you do buy that rock, it just needs to be recured, same as you would rock from the ocean. Once you do that...its as good as new.

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Old 01/12/2008, 12:59 PM   #11
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good practice to "qt" or cure any new rock to play it safe. unless it's dry dead white rock, then a rinse would suffice.

ryann, not all DIY homemaderock is dense like that, it'll all depend on who made it and how it was constructed. I've used plenty of DIY rocks that fellow reefers had made, and while most of it is really dense, I"m sure this is due to the "newbiness" of those particular people making the rock, I've had some good pieces too. . Given some practice and experience with different construction options can yield very nice porous home made rock that would be perfectly fine to use.


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Old 01/12/2008, 09:22 PM   #12
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Serra means (I think) rock from people selling their tanks off.

If you do buy that rock, it just needs to be recured, same as you would rock from the ocean. Once you do that...its as good as new.

Paul.
Thats kind of what I was thinking, but I wasn't totally sure.

Just curious, but has anyone here modded an AC110 into the mini-fuge? I was thinking about doing that when I get my tank, but I wanted to know if anyone else has done it, and where to find the Chaeto for it around here.


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Old 01/13/2008, 12:19 AM   #13
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you can get cheato pretty much off of anyone around. if your in okc area let me know ill happly give you some i got a small tank that i just grow the stuff in ,and some really neat other stuff that grows like a weed. leaves look like balls its weird but works


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Old 02/09/2008, 09:51 PM   #14
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Ryannn,

The AC110 could be used for a fuge but I doubt it will help much. It could be a place to grow some chaeto if you can get light to it but before you start your tank. Think about drilling a hole in it and add a stockman or durso type standpipe. It you are any kind of DIY person you can do this for under $10 in parts. For a sump you can use anything that will hold water. Lots of people use storage containers but there are a lot of cheap ways to make a sump that will both grow algae and give you a deep sand bed for filtration and more.

May I also ask a question because many people are probably wondering. Is your name Ryan like the guys name or Ryann like a girls name or something else that has nothing to do with the Ryannn nick. If I can't ask the question, ignore it. hahaha


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Old 02/10/2008, 04:30 AM   #15
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Here is another OK forum with a trading post. It has a 55 listing which is how you should go if you have the space. Or a 57 which is wider and taller...
http://okcaa.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=3


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Old 02/11/2008, 07:59 AM   #16
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The AC110 could be used for a fuge but I doubt it will help much. It could be a place to grow some chaeto if you can get light to it but before you start your tank. Think about drilling a hole in it and add a stockman or durso type standpipe. It you are any kind of DIY person you can do this for under $10 in parts. For a sump you can use anything that will hold water. Lots of people use storage containers but there are a lot of cheap ways to make a sump that will both grow algae and give you a deep sand bed for filtration and more.

May I also ask a question because many people are probably wondering. Is your name Ryan like the guys name or Ryann like a girls name or something else that has nothing to do with the Ryannn nick. If I can't ask the question, ignore it. hahaha
It's the male version, Ryan. I just was blanking out on coming up with a nick, so I just went with my name with some extra N's in there.

As far as drilling/sump, I won't be able to do that until I get another tank. The tank I will be using for probably the next year, to year and a half is a 29g that is kind of a loaner tank to me. But I can't drill it. Plus, the reason for the AC 110 mod is just to give me a little bit of extra Nitrate/trite scrubbing. I plan on breaking the AC down into 3 sections, if you are curious, one to hold phosban, one for floss, and on for LR and Chaeto.


And Serra, I saw that 55 Gallon on Craigslist. If I had the $200 cash right now I would go get it, that's a heck of a price. I have to do everything on a budget though, so my bigger purchases have to be spread out over a longer length of time than most people have to do, plus I just spent $300 this weekend on car stuff . Stupid cars always need SOMETHING done to them.


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