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Old 03/08/2008, 11:43 AM   #951
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Size of the tank in my experience, which is considerable with Tangs, doesn't matter as much as rock and FLOW.

Tangs need a place to swim and a place to hide.

Unintentionally at first, I kept a YTB in a 25 successfully for 4years. Bought about 1-1/2 inches with plans to upgrade to a 110 at the time... well those plans kept getting pushed back, but I kept that tank with rock, all except the very front, so I would need to buy less when time for the upgrade finally came. I did however put a MJ 900 in the front and halfway down, creating a swimming lane for him. And he loved it!

Seriously, occasionally I would forget to turn that PH back on after cleaning/feeding, etc, and he would go over to the PH and thump the glass with his body/tail until I would turn it back on. And the only time he ever got sick was when it was off for several hours at a time.

He loved his swim machine. And he loved all the rock. Put him in a 75 with a normal amount of rock for that tank--80 pounds--and he hid for weeks... until I made a PH give him a swim lane again.

I've applied the same idea to tangs we've had in the store not doing as well at first.... give them more places to hide and more current to swim in and they do better--like clock work.

Finally, IMO, the best way to be successful with a small tank and tangs is to start with a realy small tang--I imagine they miss the great open blue a lot less because they hardly swim openly in it til they get bigger.

It can definitely be done in a healthy way.... and yes, obviously at some point their growth would dictate a larger tank.


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Old 03/08/2008, 11:45 AM   #952
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oops-meant to say"kept BUYING and PACKING that tank with rock"


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Old 03/08/2008, 12:13 PM   #953
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I would like to see some posts from people with tangs over 10 years in captivity. It would be interesting to know what size tanks they are being kept in, diet, ect... That would give a true guideline for proper tank size and success. Someone with 2 years keeping tangs can only speculate on ideal husbandry, but a guy with a 15 year old hippo tang can really give some good insight that is proven and backed up by experience.

I know there is some people out there with old tangs. LETS SEE EM'


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Old 03/08/2008, 12:19 PM   #954
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Size of the tank in my experience, which is considerable with Tangs, doesn't matter as much as rock and FLOW.

Tangs need a place to swim and a place to hide.

Unintentionally at first, I kept a YTB in a 25 successfully for 4years. Bought about 1-1/2 inches with plans to upgrade to a 110 at the time... well those plans kept getting pushed back, but I kept that tank with rock, all except the very front, so I would need to buy less when time for the upgrade finally came. I did however put a MJ 900 in the front and halfway down, creating a swimming lane for him. And he loved it!

Seriously, occasionally I would forget to turn that PH back on after cleaning/feeding, etc, and he would go over to the PH and thump the glass with his body/tail until I would turn it back on. And the only time he ever got sick was when it was off for several hours at a time.

He loved his swim machine. And he loved all the rock. Put him in a 75 with a normal amount of rock for that tank--80 pounds--and he hid for weeks... until I made a PH give him a swim lane again.

I've applied the same idea to tangs we've had in the store not doing as well at first.... give them more places to hide and more current to swim in and they do better--like clock work.

Finally, IMO, the best way to be successful with a small tank and tangs is to start with a realy small tang--I imagine they miss the great open blue a lot less because they hardly swim openly in it til they get bigger.

It can definitely be done in a healthy way.... and yes, obviously at some point their growth would dictate a larger tank.
very well stated--and I agree with the flow thing
I have a flow rate over 50 times the tank vol in gph and it is the tangs that love it the most. They love to have the flow rate push them down towards the bottom and swim back against the current
kind of like a hamster in an exercise wheel


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Old 03/08/2008, 04:06 PM   #955
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Whenever i see a yellow tang i always notice how they like to swim right infront of the powerhead and just play in the flow
Theyre like kids in leaves


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Old 03/09/2008, 05:02 AM   #956
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Size of the tank in my experience, which is considerable with Tangs, doesn't matter as much as rock and FLOW.

Tangs need a place to swim and a place to hide.
So what your saying is if someone had say a 40 breeder and had little rock but it had lots of caves and crevices and if they had lots of flow in the tank. Any tang would be fine in there?


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Old 03/09/2008, 05:26 AM   #957
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No, of course not--in fact, I said "obviously at some point their growth would dictate a larger tank," and I didn't even get into personalities and sensitivities of certain species... BUT almost any tang if small enough could be maintained for a while in a 40, yes, Achilles and PBT would obviously require diligent tank care but yes. In fact, I know of a man who kept a PBT in a 29 for years without incident until a power failure while he was on vacation. I wouldn't recommend it--but the fish never got sick and literally ate out of his hand. Much can be done with tangs in relatively small tanks for a period of time, until growth necessitates an upgrade.

In the mean time... rock and current makes for happy tangs.


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Old 03/09/2008, 05:46 AM   #958
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Oh well yeah the size of tangs when they mature would lead to an upgrade or selling the tang.
Does anybody know the growth rate of yellow tangs because my LFS has a tiny one and i want it so bad, i cant buy it now as im having a bit of trouble with my tank ATM but he will be for my 45gal and now after reading what 32flavors and Capn Hylinur have said i now that a yellow would be fine for a while. They also have a tiny PBT.
If you know could you tell me the growth of the PBT and the Yellow?

Thanks - Sorry if that sounds a bit confusing.


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:05 AM   #959
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Over the years of me keeping tangs. I have found that in a small tank they won't grow as fast. Sure that may be good for people with small tanks, but it can't be good for the fish. They need the room to grow well. They will survive in a small tank but IMO they won't thrive.


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:07 AM   #960
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Great statements guys.


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:09 AM   #961
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I've always noticed that Yellow Tangs are constantly showing of their lateral line. Is there any other tang that does this?


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:26 AM   #962
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When i see this i highly think that its not the lateral line i think its just something on there body that they show. Guys has anybody had any experience with FW dips. Can you tell me how to do them i no nothing about them.


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:29 AM   #963
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FW dips - Get a bucket full of 0 TDS RO/DI get it up to temp of the reef tank and then put the fish in there for around 15 mins. Then take the fish out and this should make some of the parasites drop off the fish. Well thats what ive always done.


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:30 AM   #964
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0k thanks what if i dont have RO/DI water to put in there. Can i use tap water that has been sitting for about a week or is that a bad idea.


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:32 AM   #965
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Bad idea i wouldnt use tap water for anything to do with reef fish etc. What water do you have in your reef then?


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:33 AM   #966
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i usually have water sitting for like 2 weeks a little behind though. I will eventually invest in a RO/DI system.


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:34 AM   #967
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so your using tap water?


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:35 AM   #968
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Old 03/09/2008, 06:35 AM   #969
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have you tested for copper, phosphate etc.?


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:37 AM   #970
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not yet i have to get all those test kits so i can test for that.


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Old 03/09/2008, 06:38 AM   #971
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Woops wrong thread.



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Old 03/09/2008, 07:29 AM   #972
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ok lol kar


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Old 03/09/2008, 01:13 PM   #973
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^^^^^^
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Old 03/09/2008, 01:26 PM   #974
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where almost to the spilt kar!!


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Old 03/09/2008, 01:28 PM   #975
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