Reef Central Online Community
Neptune Systems

Home Forum Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences View New Posts View Today's Posts

Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Reefkeeping ...an online magazine for marine aquarists Support our sponsors and mention Reef Central

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Reef Discussion
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 01/10/2008, 10:06 AM   #1
reeformadness
Registered Member
 
reeformadness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 650
Just switched to T5's

Overall, I am happy with the upgrade. I previously had 4 T-12 VHO's (3 super actinics, 1 aquasun) on an ice cap ballast. I am now overdriving 3 T5's (1 UVL aquasun, 2 ATI aquablues) and I kept 1 UVL T-12 super actinic. All are 46.5" being run on my icecap 660 ballast. I will now be saving 90W/hr in electricity. That's only about $2/mo in my area but every little bit counts. My first impression was WOW! They were even smaller then I expected and they are BRIGHT! I never have used reflectors in my hood so I'm sure that is part of it. Either way, the light is nearly blinding when you look directly at it and they certainly are pushing more lumens than I had before. I'm not sure how this will equate to PUR and growth in my corals though. My first disappointment is the temperature of the bulbs. I guess people mean that the tank won't get as hot when they say that they run cooler, but the surface of the bulbs themselves will nearly burn you. My biggest disappointment would be in the amount of fluorescence in my tank now. The overall color is GREAT, but some things that were fluorescing (sp?) are not anymore. My T-12 super actinic is old so maybe changing that out will remedy the problem. I also may consider switching out one of the aquablues for a T5 super actinic just to try one out for myself. I hear they do not compete with T-12 super actinics but it might be the best trade off between color and energy efficiency. With all the bulbs out there I'm sure I can get the color I want, and therefore, my opinion is that T5's are superior to T-12s and PC's (except, maybe with super actinics.) I will try to get some before and after pics up this weekend with the same exact camera settings.


reeformadness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 11:04 AM   #2
Dustin1231
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wichita Kansas
Posts: 260
most light bulbs will burn you...


__________________
WOW, never thought id spend more money on a fish tank then a motorcycle...

Current Tank Info: a 12 nano and 120 mixed started on June 16 2007
Dustin1231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 11:05 AM   #3
Dustin1231
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wichita Kansas
Posts: 260
the T5s heat the tank up less then MH. I have to run a fan in the summer because of my 2x 250 MH


__________________
WOW, never thought id spend more money on a fish tank then a motorcycle...

Current Tank Info: a 12 nano and 120 mixed started on June 16 2007
Dustin1231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 11:06 AM   #4
reeformadness
Registered Member
 
reeformadness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 650
Sure, but these are certainly hotter on the surface than my VHO's were. Keep in mind I'm pushing them 80W each. I do have summer heat issues, so that will definitely be a help.


reeformadness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 03:33 PM   #5
pony_killer
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 322
wheres a good place to purchase t-5 bulbs online?


pony_killer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 03:44 PM   #6
reeformadness
Registered Member
 
reeformadness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 650
I got my aquablues at reefgeek.com. They probably have the best selection and I love how they have the spectrum of the bulb in a graph. More manufacturers should give all the specifications that they can. I got my aquasuns at thatfishplace.com since I had a 20% off coupon. They usually have good prices anyway. Championlighting.com also carries UVL products.


reeformadness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 03:49 PM   #7
flyguy7150
Registered Member
 
flyguy7150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pembroke Pines
Posts: 895
My bulbs get hot, but not as hot as yours sound. I am not overdriving them though and have cooling fans in the canopy pointed at the endcaps. A uvl super actinic will really make your corals pop, I love the way this bulb made my corals really stand out, much better than a PC actinic. How come you didnt run 4 t-5 bulbs?? I think the t12 would barely be noticable with the t5s on.


__________________
Leo

Click on my red house to see my 90g RR tank :) Tons of pictures, tons... Click!!!

Current Tank Info: 90g AGA Reef Ready, 6x54w T5s w/ SLRs, 29g Sump/fuge, OR 2500 Return, Octopus NW150, 2 x TLF Phosban Reactor, Koralia #1, #4, MJ Modded
flyguy7150 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 03:54 PM   #8
reeformadness
Registered Member
 
reeformadness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 650
The T-12 does look awfully dim compared to the T5's. It is VERY old (2 years?) Many in this forum tend to think (including The Grim Reefer) that the T12 actinics are superior. I am wondering if this is true now.


reeformadness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 03:56 PM   #9
reefergeorge
Registered Member
 
reefergeorge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: St Louis MO
Posts: 4,222
When you overdrive t5s you should have a fan blowing across them. To try to extend the life a little more.


__________________
$35-50 for a <1" frag of some stupid named thing that came from a colony you bought for $40-60 wholesale and chopped into 20-40 pieces? No thanks. "JasonH"

Current Tank Info: 125 aggressive reef, DIY led lighting, swc cone skimmer, 33 gallon sump, posiden Ps3 return.
reefergeorge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 04:01 PM   #10
reeformadness
Registered Member
 
reeformadness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 650
I guess a fan might be my next investment. I know the cooler they are, the more light you get out of them too. Sounds like a win-win.


reeformadness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 04:03 PM   #11
Craig Lambert
Premium Member
 
Craig Lambert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2,897
Quote:
Originally posted by reeformadness
The T-12 does look awfully dim compared to the T5's. Many in this forum tend to think (including The Grim Reefer) that the T12 actinics are superior. I am wondering if this is true now.
There's little doubt about that. I recently switched to t-5's on my 75G. I was running 4 t-12 uvl aquasuns and 2 uvl super actinics. ( I run two icecap ballasts). I kept the two Super actinics and run 4 t-5's with them. I run 2 aqua blue, 1 aquasun, 1 blue special.


__________________
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will spend all day in a boat drinking beer."

Current Tank Info: 75G Tank, 29G Sump, 100lbs LR, AquaC EV-180, Iwaki MD-20RT return Tunze nano streams 4X54 t-5/Icecap Ballast & SLR's 2x110 vho actinic
Craig Lambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 04:08 PM   #12
reeformadness
Registered Member
 
reeformadness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 650
So it sounds like it might be just a very old, dim bulb that needs replacement.


reeformadness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 04:10 PM   #13
reeformadness
Registered Member
 
reeformadness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 650
4 aquasuns on a 75? That aquarium must have been bright! I have never heard of the blue special.


reeformadness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 05:01 PM   #14
flyguy7150
Registered Member
 
flyguy7150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pembroke Pines
Posts: 895
blue special i think he's referring to the aquablue special, same bulb you have


__________________
Leo

Click on my red house to see my 90g RR tank :) Tons of pictures, tons... Click!!!

Current Tank Info: 90g AGA Reef Ready, 6x54w T5s w/ SLRs, 29g Sump/fuge, OR 2500 Return, Octopus NW150, 2 x TLF Phosban Reactor, Koralia #1, #4, MJ Modded
flyguy7150 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 05:15 PM   #15
Craig Lambert
Premium Member
 
Craig Lambert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2,897
Sorry, 2 ATI aquablue special, and 1 ATI blue plus.


__________________
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will spend all day in a boat drinking beer."

Current Tank Info: 75G Tank, 29G Sump, 100lbs LR, AquaC EV-180, Iwaki MD-20RT return Tunze nano streams 4X54 t-5/Icecap Ballast & SLR's 2x110 vho actinic
Craig Lambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 05:22 PM   #16
addicted4life
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Indy
Posts: 149
I wanted to mention getting a blue+ bulb too. I run 8 T5 bulbs and have tried them all and all I gotta say is I like the blue of the blue+ the best. I think I remember the aquablues looking purple ??


addicted4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 05:31 PM   #17
reeformadness
Registered Member
 
reeformadness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 650
Thanks. I thought about the blue+ and will probably try it in the future. I definitely like the bluer look of my new lighting. Really brings the purple out in my rocks.


reeformadness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01/10/2008, 06:25 PM   #18
jennmac415
premium member "reefmama"
 
jennmac415's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 1,903
how about a pic?


__________________
Jenni AKA "Reefmama"

Current Tank Info: currently just have a 34 gallon.
jennmac415 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:47 PM.


TapaTalk Enabled

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2021 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright 1999-2014
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.