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Old 12/06/2007, 02:56 PM   #1
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Question Carpenter's Flasher vs McCosker's Flasher Wrasse

I want to get a wrasse for my 60 gallon reef and I was thinking about getting the Carpenter's Flasher until I saw the McCosker's Flasher Wrasse.



Which one would you get and why?


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Old 12/06/2007, 03:17 PM   #2
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I've been thinking about getting a mccosker's flasher every since i saw them in live aquarias drivers den. The super males look so stunning! Thats what i would do.


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Old 12/06/2007, 03:31 PM   #3
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If you get a flasher wrasse, especially McCoskers, you need to light acclimate them as well as the normal process for a new fish. Both are great fish especially if you pair them.


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Old 12/06/2007, 11:39 PM   #4
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McCosker,because it looks better and both are about the same hardiness.


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Old 12/07/2007, 07:43 AM   #5
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Old 12/07/2007, 08:27 AM   #6
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i like the carpenters because it has more than one filament but i like the flashers with lots of filaments..but i have kept both and they are both really nice fish to keep


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Old 12/07/2007, 01:23 PM   #7
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agreed, a nice carpenters is usually a nicer fish then the mccoskers because it has more filaments. I have seen some really nice mccoskers also, but if you put a perfect specimen of both side by side you would probably think the carpenters was nicer. the one in my avatar is a carpenters, sorry for the crappy pic but it was the only one i got before he went carpet surfing


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Old 12/07/2007, 04:06 PM   #8
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What about a yellowfin flasher? I think they are just as nice as mccosker's and they can have 1, 2, or 3 filaments.


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Old 01/11/2008, 05:41 PM   #9
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What is the chances of them leaving together in a bigger tank?


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Old 01/11/2008, 05:56 PM   #10
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i had a mccoskers and carpenters in a 180 with no problems...i used a specimen cup to acclimate the fish...the carpenters went in after the mccosker..the mcocsker cam up to the cup the first day and after that they would rarely flash at each other..i would not try that in my 90 though


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Old 01/11/2008, 06:15 PM   #11
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I can't seem to find the Flasher Wrasse picture thread. Can someone please post a link this thread.


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Old 01/11/2008, 06:27 PM   #12
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is this the thread you were looking for?

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=828181


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Old 01/11/2008, 08:28 PM   #13
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Thats the one. Thanks a lot.


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Old 01/11/2008, 09:11 PM   #14
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IME, the flashers aren't as nasty to one another as you might think.

I have three yellowfins in my 75G, and the most aggression I ever see is some flashing and a bit of chasing.

(Maybe this isn't the norm?)

Based on this experience, I would try them both. I'd wait for some other folks to chime in though.


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Old 01/12/2008, 10:14 AM   #15
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i think it depends on if you add them to the tank at the same time or if you allow them to acclimate to one another before introducing one or the other. I know that I had a carpenters that had been in my tank for a while, then tried to introduce a filimented. That did not go well, the carpenters instantly started to destroy the filimented. It might work if you could put one in a container of some sort to let the one that has been in the tank for a while get used to the new comer or introduce them at the same time so no territories are set up.


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Old 01/12/2008, 10:59 AM   #16
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klasiksb, the chances of them leaving together depends on whether or not you have a covered aquarium. They jump. Eggcrate won't keep them in.

Both carpenters and McCoskers are beautiful fish; basically the same level of hardiness. No aggression towards each other but lined wrasses will do them in.


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Old 01/12/2008, 02:17 PM   #17
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How is the behavior of the Carpenter with tank mates like perculas, royal gramma, bangaii cardinal, firefish, chromis and some other small fishes?


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Old 01/12/2008, 02:51 PM   #18
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They'll leave them alone.


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Old 01/12/2008, 07:32 PM   #19
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Well, some of the fairy and flasher wrasses tend to intimidate firefish. Other than that, no problem.


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Old 01/12/2008, 11:10 PM   #20
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My Carpenter's did show aggression to a new small laboutei female about the same size as himself. They both liked to surf the flow looking for food. I think he saw her as competition.


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Old 01/13/2008, 05:27 AM   #21
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Ecosystem imperative is what causes aggression. If a fish perceives that another fish occupies the same ecosystem and they are in their territory, there will likely aggression. If not real aggression, false aggression. The smaller the tank and the larger the normal territory of the fish, the greater the possiblilty of aggression.


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