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Old 11/05/2007, 06:42 AM   #1
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Anyone with big tanks also using a heater?

question one: what is a good brand...ideal, i would like to have my AC3 control it.

question two: do they make one that will work with 300gals or do i need 2?

These temps have been great for the ph, but my temps dropped into the low 77's even though i put an old 250w heater on the tank outside.

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Old 11/05/2007, 06:51 AM   #2
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I have seen up to 500w heaters but I just use multiple 300w on mine.


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Old 11/05/2007, 07:15 AM   #3
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what brand are u using? I think i would prefer ones that can be submersible


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Old 11/05/2007, 07:27 AM   #4
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I have always liked Jager heaters the best but I can only find 250w in that brand so I use a couple of 300w Hagen heaters that I had from my old setup.


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Old 11/05/2007, 07:38 AM   #5
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thanks for the info!


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Old 11/05/2007, 07:41 AM   #6
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ALWAYS use 2 or more... if one fails you have one that will work. I set my heaters to 80, and set the AC3 to 78

By doing that the AC3 is always shutting the heaters off at 78 degrees, but it the AC3's probe fails the heaters will shut themselves off at 80, To have a cooked tank I need the AC3 to fail and the internal temp probe on the heaters.


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Old 11/05/2007, 07:56 AM   #7
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Now my wife wants me to replumb everything...to bring the refuge inside and put that in the cabinet under the tank and move the sump to outside. I am thinking that might be a good idea. I thought of doing that months ago, but didnt want to cause of the cost and time involved.

Reason to do it, smaller amount of water exposed do outside temps, so the heaters in the winter and chiller in the summer will run less, plus moving the Hammerhead pump outside will quiet the room even more. What u think, should i go for it? Probably an all day project!


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Old 11/05/2007, 08:36 AM   #8
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That is a sick project.

I would build an insulated cabinet for the Refuge or the Sump, outside.
I Leave the chiller where it is, but completely seal in the Refuge. For a trial you can just buy the 2" foam that they sell at homedepot and make a box out of it. If you like the results, then you can go up a notch and make a nice looking wood box and attach the foam to that.

Of course you would get better results with 1" foam with a 1/2" gap then a second 1" foam. that air space in the middle of the foam works to really insulate and drives efficiency way up. you would also be wise to place foam on top of the concrete, in the winter that will be pretty cold and will suck heat from the tank.


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Old 11/05/2007, 09:45 AM   #9
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Bryan, which heaters are u using?


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Old 11/05/2007, 09:52 AM   #10
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anyone use marineland heaters? saw 300w petsmart for $17.99


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Old 11/05/2007, 10:12 AM   #11
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I have the Marineland ones... they are in boxes still. Water this weekend just his 77, time to get them out out of the packaging.


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Old 11/05/2007, 10:40 AM   #12
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i like the specs on the Hagen +- .25degrees, but cant beat the price of the Marineland at $17.99.


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Old 11/05/2007, 10:42 AM   #13
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when you have the controller controlling the heaters, all you need is on and off. Having temp control on the heater just gives failure protection.


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Old 11/05/2007, 06:40 PM   #14
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I was just about to start this thread. So without starting a "my heater is better than yours" war, which is a good reliable. I am also using a AC, but mine is a ACJr. I woke up and my tank was 75, so I turned the lights on right away. I would have to agree with Bryan that the built in gauge can lead to problems, but don't most heaters already come with them?


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Old 11/05/2007, 08:28 PM   #15
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i like via aqua titanium heaters then i would go with jager or the hydor 400 w heaters


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Old 11/06/2007, 03:40 AM   #16
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because i could not find the Marineland locally i went with 1 Hagen 300w and 1 Jager 250w, which i will use with my existing 250w dont remember the brand though.


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Old 11/06/2007, 05:27 AM   #17
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I use the jager's and have never had a problem.

I had my sump outdoors for a year or so and I housed it in one of those plastic mini sheds from Lowes. I used silicone on the joints to seal it up and keep the critters out.

Myakkareef has been using one for a few years with great success and I think he even installed a fan with a sensor to exhaust the humidity.


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