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Old 12/20/2007, 05:17 PM   #1
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Advice needed for large water change pump please

I am considering setting up a water change system. Currently I siphon 5-6 buckets of water out of my tank and carry them to the bathroom 50 feet away from the tank. I then carry 5-6 buckets up 2 flights of stairs and then across 60 feet of hardwood floors into the tank spilling at least a half a gallon on the floors. After turning on the tank pumps and mopping up, I am done.
What I would like to do is drain 25 gallons out of my tank down a hose into the basement floor drain and then connect that hose to a pump in or on a Brute water mixing container on wheels. I then wish to plug in that pump and pump fresh saltwater straight up 20 feet and then across approx 60 feet to the tank.
Dont you guys think that this would make things a lot easier on my back and the floors?
Any suggestions as to a pump? Noise, efficiency, etc are not really a factor as it will only be used once every 7-10 days for water changes. Cost may be a factor.
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Old 12/20/2007, 06:00 PM   #2
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I think you will have to go with an external shaft driven pump to give you a reasonable flow at 20 or so feet of head pressure. You could check out Reeflo pumps- their website gives all of the head pressure to flow charts for each of their pumps. Or maybe one of the bigger blue line pumps from Champion-just to give a couple of options...


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Old 12/20/2007, 06:08 PM   #3
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Yes for the head a external is probably the best bet. Look into genx models i think a 55?? (guessing thats the model) will do nicely. Or a used iwaki will also do.
Both will do a good job at what you want to do. You'll just need to have a over the top hose system and prime it to get it started, or directly connect it to your water makup/mixing tub.


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Old 12/20/2007, 06:14 PM   #4
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Heres the model, I had a 40, and it was a very dependable pump! Nice price too.
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...gory_Code=MAK4


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Old 12/20/2007, 06:58 PM   #5
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Thanks guys This gives me a few ideas to think about.


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Old 12/20/2007, 07:01 PM   #6
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An external pump seems like over kill to me and a pain to plumb to a Brute. I use a cheap catalina pump and it works fine. I pump about 125ft although the head is only about 10ft. To make it easy why not get a used Mag18/24 or 36. You can attach a hose and just dump it in your Brute, no priming needed. I used a Mag36 as a return on a previous tank where the sump was in my basement and the head was probably 20+ ft and it worked fine.


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Old 12/20/2007, 07:05 PM   #7
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A mag 36 will pump 20+ feet straight up an unprimed tube? Hmmm, that could work.


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Old 12/20/2007, 07:21 PM   #8
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How about a pond waterfall pump like this one??

http://cgi.ebay.com/NurseryPro-Water...QQcmdZViewItem

It says it has it can push a 28.5' of head...


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Old 12/20/2007, 07:29 PM   #9
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Yeah a Mag36 will pump that high and once you stick it in the bucket it fills with water and away you go. I use a garden hose with a regular sprayer on the end so I can turn it on and off in my sump.

That waterfall pump looks great for money and what you need it to do.


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Old 12/20/2007, 07:33 PM   #10
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Just noticed they have a 3,000 and 4,000 gph waterfall pump with a max head of 32 and 39ft. I may just try one myself.

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Old 12/20/2007, 07:42 PM   #11
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Bono, I love your music
By waterfall pump do you mean mag pump?


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Old 12/20/2007, 07:44 PM   #12
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Nevermind I just saw that link above.


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Old 12/20/2007, 08:46 PM   #13
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Thanks for the help guys. I just measured and it looks like I need to move the water up 24 feet. Anybody else doing something similar?


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Old 12/21/2007, 09:26 AM   #14
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Morning bump. Anybody else have ideas?


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