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Old 01/10/2008, 11:03 AM   #1
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Question Which Dward Angel is LEAST likly to nip sps?

I know that all dwarf angels have a tendency to nip but I am sure there are certain breeds that are more likly to nip than others. So please share your experiences with the dwarfs you kept. I like the potters angel but I don't have much info about it, how likly is this guy to nip?

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Old 01/10/2008, 12:04 PM   #2
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We have a coral beauty. A little bossy with the tank mates, but not too bad. Just has to be the king.

Leaves all of our corals (SPS/LPS/softies) and clams alone. But it is well fed - I've been told that is important.

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Old 01/10/2008, 12:11 PM   #3
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First, I would not suggest a potters as your first angel.

I keep a lemonpeel, I have seen it nip at an SPS once. And that was the end of it. IME it is always a 50/50 toss up with any Centropyge. I have had a CB, Lemonpeel, and a Flame.

Also, keeping them well fed as said above is a good thing. IME this has kept my angel's from nipping. And I have one notorious for nipping.

I always have a sheet of seaweed on a rock and I feed mysis once a day.

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Old 01/10/2008, 12:35 PM   #4
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I went back and read nearly every post about dwarf angels for the past year. From those readings, I've concluded the pygmy angel (Cherub) and it's close "cousins" the Flameback Angels are the most reef safe. However, it should be said that NOTHING is 100%.

I went out and bought a pair of Flamebacks. It's only been a week, but so far, so good.

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Old 01/10/2008, 02:04 PM   #5
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Like whats been said, they all mite nip..just angel nature. From what ive had, the flame, coral beauty, and chubs have been good. Bi color nipped almost everything. Good luck with what u get, just kinda depends on if the fish u get...

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Old 01/10/2008, 02:47 PM   #6
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I have a tank with a few SPS corals, some xenia, and some zoanthids. My flame angel was great for almost 6 months, but the little jerk has just now started harassing my pink zoanthids. He will not let them stay open.

For the longest time I thought I had a "good one." I always knew, however, that I could never get a clam in the tank with the flame in there, as he loves to pick at the base of the snails just to get a reaction.

They are beautiful, but if you don't want to worry about your corals - or you want a clam - I personally would avoid one. Just my experience!

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Old 01/10/2008, 02:51 PM   #7
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Forgot to mention - as far as I can tell, my flame angel hasn't bothered my SPS - yet! But I am watching him closely!

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Old 01/10/2008, 02:58 PM   #8
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I've got an SPS dominated tank with 2 dwarfs. 1 Coral Beauty and 1 Rusty Angel. They've both been great. I see then nip algae all day, but never an SPS coral or clam. I've had my Dejardini sailfin eat clams before, but the angels won't even look twice at a clam. They don't really directly attack nori either, just eat whatever is on rocks or floating around.

Again, I've got more problems between my Dejardini (who I keep because he eats ALL ALGAE! including bubble, GHA, bryopsis, etc) and my Christmas Wrasse who eats snails, so i don't really worry about the two dwarfs.

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Old 01/10/2008, 03:09 PM   #9
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I have had good luck with C. multicolor in both SPS and LPS tanks. I have had good luck with C. joculator in an LPS tank.

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Old 01/10/2008, 06:17 PM   #10
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we got lucky than. we have one that doesnt bother anything

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Old 01/10/2008, 10:14 PM   #11
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I had to trade in my Coral Beauty. Soon as I added a Tubs birdsnest he started to nip.

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Old 01/11/2008, 07:00 PM   #12
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Sure success with a reef safe angel is to go with one of the Genicanthus species. I have a female Bellus and she is active, beautiful, non-aggressive, and never approaches any of the corals, hard or soft.

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Old 01/11/2008, 07:17 PM   #13
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there was just an article on just this topic in a recent past issue of RC's Mag, maybe somebody could find it, i tried but couldn't. check out this though, pretty well set-up site.


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Old 01/11/2008, 07:55 PM   #14
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C. argi & its relatives ( Cherubs & Flamebacks), Also White-tailed & Fisher's are the best bets. But of course, there is always some risks..


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Old 01/11/2008, 08:43 PM   #15
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they are always a hit or miss if you want to take the chance then you can go ahead but the angle might eat your SPS and other's. Then your going to have to go through the process of getting him out

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Old 01/11/2008, 08:44 PM   #16
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In the past I've had 4 flame angels they all lasted 1 month then all of a sudden lost their color and died 2 days later, I had a 1/2 black, that lasted 2 weeks, then a coral beauty that lasted 3 days, an eibli that lasted about 1 week......... great luck right? Then I had a Mac certified Potter's, who was doing great, until I had a power outtage that killed him, my prized Achilles, and a naso tang.
Then I get to my current Potter's, had him for like 5 months and he's doing great........ ok enough jibber jabber, he nips here and there at my sps, but nothing major, I watch him all the time he doesn't even look at my clams, he pays more attention to the kole tang I have, they take turns chasing each other.

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Old 01/11/2008, 08:45 PM   #17
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I've had a Potter's for about a year now and it doesn't bother any of my corals or clam. It does like to try and boss around the Red Spotted Blenny and Brown Barred Goby.

It is well fed with nori, flake and frozen foods.

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