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Old 07/24/2008, 05:16 PM   #176
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Waterkeeper,

Thanks for the Natural Filtration Article Part II. I have now converted my established live rock tank to a 5 inch DSB. In you article you recommend staying away from live stock that would disturb the deeper portion of the sand bead and large burrowing fish.

However, I was wondering if you would have concerns over adding any of the following:

1. a pair of diamond gobys ... my understanding is they only sift the top layer of the sand bed.

2. blue spot jawfish .... they are a relatively small fish.

Also, I have a pair of bar gobys who have tunneled under some of the live rock.
Are they a concern with maintaining the DSB?

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Old 07/29/2008, 04:07 PM   #177
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Hello to all!! As a newbie to the soft coral reef tank all I can do is look around in awe at the tanks that I have seen. If I had not been totally bitten by the bug before I was directed to this site I am hopelessly sunk now! About my tank... 75 gallon starter, three months old tank, with twelve (who-hoo) shiney mushrooms two feathers and a starburst that looks fabo some damsels and a nemo/anemo...plenty of hermit crabs, two feathers and lotsa live rok. I am itching to move ahead... i kno patience is a virtue but can someone tell me if I am ready??

Ok, this is the part where I show my lack of intelligence, lol...
running: 4 Coralife 10,000k 55watt compact florescent 21 inch lights
two filters, Aqua Clear one for 75 gal and one for a 60 gal
one small power head:Rio 180

Tank measurements:
Ammonia= 0
Nitrite=0
Nitrate=20 i dunno why this is staying high??
PH=7.8-8.0

Either way, my name is Chris and you guys are such the jam when it comes to tanks. Cudos to Progressive Marine for sending me here, the most awsome unsolicited non-advertised shop in mobile alabama!

Nice to meet everyone! Upwards and onwards...








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Old 07/30/2008, 07:40 PM   #178
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So stoked to be here!

A super noob! Hi everyone, very glad to be here. I'm a scuba diver who has too much dust on his (scuba) equipment and have decided to take the plunge and put a little bit of the beautiful ocean I don't see as much anymore in my apartment. Due to size and budget, I've started small, 20G (24x13x16) with 24 lbs. Fiji rock. Tank has been up since Friday 6/25/08, stable pH just over 8.1, SG about 1.0226, sand and rock are in and we have the beginnings of some brown looking algae hitting the scene. I know the 20G won't be able to handle a ton of livestock and am aware of the difficulties of maintaining smaller tanks, but I figure some extra TLC are in order if I want to go big in the new home that is in sight within 24 months. Patience is not my strongest virtue, so this is a true test! I am looking forward to ammonia levels going above zero pretty soon and adding some algae eaters and such before adding some fish after August vacation.

I love the forums, all kinds of great information and I can't wait to post my little coral paradise!


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Old 08/06/2008, 01:27 PM   #179
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I am a newbie and had a question concerning water. I understand issues with municipality water, but what about starting out with well water?

BTW...
I'm also a newbie to this site, and the article is great!


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Old 08/06/2008, 02:17 PM   #180
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It doesen't matter what water you start out with as long as you remove whatever substances are in the water that would cause harm to corals. Well water may be fine but well water can also have heavy metals and insecticides along with nitrate. You could have it tested or use reverse osmosis or deionization, preferably both.
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Old 08/06/2008, 09:40 PM   #181
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Quote:
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I am a newbie and had a question concerning water. I understand issues with municipality water, but what about starting out with well water?

BTW...
I'm also a newbie to this site, and the article is great!

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suggest you invest in a good ro/di filter right from the start




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Old 08/06/2008, 09:44 PM   #182
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Originally posted by bpursell
Hello to all!! As a newbie to the soft coral reef tank all I can do is look around in awe at the tanks that I have seen. If I had not been totally bitten by the bug before I was directed to this site I am hopelessly sunk now! About my tank... 75 gallon starter, three months old tank, with twelve (who-hoo) shiney mushrooms two feathers and a starburst that looks fabo some damsels and a nemo/anemo...plenty of hermit crabs, two feathers and lotsa live rok. I am itching to move ahead... i kno patience is a virtue but can someone tell me if I am ready??

Ok, this is the part where I show my lack of intelligence, lol...
running: 4 Coralife 10,000k 55watt compact florescent 21 inch lights
two filters, Aqua Clear one for 75 gal and one for a 60 gal
one small power head:Rio 180

Tank measurements:
Ammonia= 0
Nitrite=0
Nitrate=20 i dunno why this is staying high??
PH=7.8-8.0

Either way, my name is Chris and you guys are such the jam when it comes to tanks. Cudos to Progressive Marine for sending me here, the most awsome unsolicited non-advertised shop in mobile alabama!

Nice to meet everyone! Upwards and onwards...


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re nitrates high--have you started to do water changes?








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Old 08/06/2008, 09:46 PM   #183
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Re: So stoked to be here!

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A super noob! Hi everyone, very glad to be here. I'm a scuba diver who has too much dust on his (scuba) equipment and have decided to take the plunge and put a little bit of the beautiful ocean I don't see as much anymore in my apartment. Due to size and budget, I've started small, 20G (24x13x16) with 24 lbs. Fiji rock. Tank has been up since Friday 6/25/08, stable pH just over 8.1, SG about 1.0226, sand and rock are in and we have the beginnings of some brown looking algae hitting the scene. I know the 20G won't be able to handle a ton of livestock and am aware of the difficulties of maintaining smaller tanks, but I figure some extra TLC are in order if I want to go big in the new home that is in sight within 24 months. Patience is not my strongest virtue, so this is a true test! I am looking forward to ammonia levels going above zero pretty soon and adding some algae eaters and such before adding some fish after August vacation.

I love the forums, all kinds of great information and I can't wait to post my little coral paradise!

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Old 08/11/2008, 08:07 PM   #184
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i am new to this hobby and is loving this site a lot of good info and articals what an awsome site!!!


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Old 08/11/2008, 08:20 PM   #185
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one question i have is about bio balls . shuold i be using them and why? i heard that they willl start running my nitrates up eventually.is ths true


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Old 08/12/2008, 08:19 AM   #186
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Bio balls help process waist to Nitrates quickly, but don't process them from their. I don't think they are helpful in most situations and I usually suggest removing them. Just my two cents though.


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Old 08/12/2008, 12:10 PM   #187
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one question i have is about bio balls . shuold i be using them and why? i heard that they willl start running my nitrates up eventually.is ths true

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Bioballs should be replaced---live rock, sand bed and a protein skimmer are all you need for a good filtration system

There are three kinds of bacteria that work on biological filtration
aerobic bacteria which break down ammonia to nitrites
anerobic bacteria which break down nitrites to nitrates
anoxic bacteria which break down the nitrates to nitrogen gas and it leaves your tank

Anoxic bacteria live in deep layers of the substrate and innner most parts of the live rock.
Bioballs can't support anoxic bacteria so any waste collected with them is turned to nitrates by the above processes but the nitrates can't be converted to nitrogen gas because of the lack of anoxic bacteria.
Therefor over time nitrates can build up on the bioballs and eventually make it back into your system.


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Old 08/12/2008, 12:12 PM   #188
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I have all this in diagram form for better understanding on the Capn's Log Book blog:

http://www.reefcentral.com/wp/?p=324

Specificially here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/wp/?p=289


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Old 08/12/2008, 08:35 PM   #189
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to capn: yes, just finished 2o% water change so we will see how that helps, also changed the filters, etc you get the idea. Everything is tip top shape EXCEPT for the nitrates. Grrr. Now that I have done a bit more research I realize that it was most likely due to over feeding at the get go and poor poor tank maintence on my part. I thought that I was still cycling and should have been changing water before now. Currently I am dealing with either red hair algae or cyanobacteria (aka the dreaded red slime) I have had no fish loss or any sign of stress but plenty of red algae... slap the noob here, I could not distinguish good red algae from bad. I was sooo proud. Lol.

I added three snails, three emerald crabs, and a Hawiian flame angel to the tank before I realized the deal. Following my water change the nitrates are now still too high.


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Old 08/12/2008, 08:39 PM   #190
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to capn: yes, just finished 2o% water change so we will see how that helps, also changed the filters, etc you get the idea. Everything is tip top shape EXCEPT for the nitrates. Grrr. Now that I have done a bit more research I realize that it was most likely due to over feeding at the get go and poor poor tank maintence on my part. I thought that I was still cycling and should have been changing water before now. Currently I am dealing with either red hair algae or cyanobacteria (aka the dreaded red slime) I have had no fish loss or any sign of stress but plenty of red algae... slap the noob here, I could not distinguish good red algae from bad. I was sooo proud. Lol.

I added three snails, three emerald crabs, and a Hawiian flame angel to the tank before I realized the deal. Following my water change the nitrates are now still too high.
start posting some pictures of your tank--it will make it easier for us to follow your progress and answer your questions


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Old 08/13/2008, 08:35 AM   #191
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One possibility, which I have found to b the case a lot of the time, is that you could have hair algae covered in cyano bacteria. Address the cause of the problem before you focus on removal.

If you do start manual removal I would start a slow siphon with some tubing so when you pull or brush things off you can remove 99% or the pieces.

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Old 08/17/2008, 08:28 AM   #192
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+ 1 on finding the source of nitratesa and phosphates

Eliminate the source of nutrients and you eliminate the algae:

here is a few ways of doing that:

http://www.reefcentral.com/wp/?p=287


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Old 08/17/2008, 08:00 PM   #193
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Old 08/31/2008, 10:00 AM   #194
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Suggestions for RO filter for 55 gal tank?

Ok, I dropped and did 50... now can I ask my first question?
Newbie here willing to go as s l o w as I need to go in order to do this right.
I have an empty 55 gal tank I want to turn into a Reef tank. I read the water article and agree. What size RO system do you suggest that I buy? Can they be bought at Lowe's or are they only available at Aquarium shops?
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I mean THANKS SIR!

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Old 08/31/2008, 11:52 AM   #195
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I think you should get 4-5stage RO/Di system with 100-150gpd pumping. It's best to purchase at Local fish shop or Water and Ice. I got mines at Waterandice.com I bought the typhoon III with 75gph for my 12g tank.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=812782


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Old 08/31/2008, 01:08 PM   #196
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How does this RO filter look?

http://www.purelyh2o.com/catalog/The...m-p-16237.html


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Air, Water & Ice

Just found your filter. It was listed as Water & Ice, but I found it under Air Water & Ice. I assume it's the same folks.
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Old 09/04/2008, 03:36 PM   #198
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Re: How does this RO filter look?

thats a good price for an ro/di unit


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I agree and thats a deal


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Old 09/13/2008, 09:45 PM   #200
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Can anyone tell me of their experience with ecosystem type tanks ? Thanks


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